No comment.Originally Posted by AltecLansingFan
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Your neighbors called. They like your music.
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Like every other cable thread on every other forum in existence, it turns out like this. Good people with a difference of opinion acting out of character for the sake of argument. I wish I were a moderator here. I would have nipped this puppy in the bud before it ever got started.
Cable threads are one of the evils of our hobby and should be exorcised.
Rant hat off.
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Cal I will address you but not the troll.
This thread was started by pretending to ask for advice. The original poster then went on to hammer his opinions, every one disagreeing with him is wrong. It never was a discussion.
Just troll plain and simple.
As far as speaker cables, I favor everyone using what they want. I don't believe all cables sound alike.
Most cable claims can't be documented. That is no reason for somebody to not use what they want. When cables are sold for a thousand times what they cost to make....Monster comes to mind...it is just plain immoral.
This is about power cables. And ridiculously expensive ones.
The OP allows one opinion...his own is the only one that can be right. Then he claims to be modest? the lady doth protest too much.
Power conditioners can improve crappy power. So can fixing the crappy power.
Without even trying to fix his power the claim is made an overpriced filter is "the best buy".
Al little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and he has little knowledge.
Two questions for board members....
1. Is this board about buying Boutique products or mostly about DIY?
Which of these reviews is honest?
"I bought an xxx power conditioner. For me the results were much improved sound and clarity. If you have power issues this might be worth a try."
"I bought an XXX power conditioner. It is amazing! Conclusion: sound was never so open, like your room is much bigger now, very straight bass, and a very nice controled detail.
Best buy for the money!"
I am in favor of discussions about all boutique products being banned from here. There are plenty of boards discussing them. Why bring it here?
Your neighbors called. They like your music.
Sorry my friend, but your are much to personal, and I don't think that is very respectable!
Maybe you already posted more than 3000 posts here on this forum, I don't care if you are "old" or not, I don't think you are the boss here, and I don't think you can decide if we are talking here about cables or not!!
The only thing I can tell you, and I know it for sure, because you never tried them, as you say "boutique" cables by yourself; You don't know anything from cables at all. PERIOD!!
Come back with your opinion when you really tried them and tell me everything.
Have a good day. :2thumbsup:
Maybe you worked 2 years at the Altec plant as a cleaning assistant, this does not say that you know anything from sound at all! (Sorry this time I also was a little personal)
30 days??????? Could this be related to the lunar cycle? I know sunspot activity can interfere with some radio transmissions.
Opinion is only as valid as its verifiable supporting evidence.
For the sake of balance this link is presented without judgement.
http://www.shunyata.com/Content/reviews.html
Opinion is only as valid as its verifiable supporting evidence.
mah, it isn't a question of whether the item works. Or whether it is good or bad.
the question is -is it the best solution, or the best solution for the money. There are thousands of items on the market at varying prices. And there are many DIY solutions.
A power conditioner can be very effective. IF YOU HAVE POWER ISSUES.
There are MANY ways to address power issues. The OP NEVER EVEN tried them and decided that an expensive item is the best buy.
A power conditioner is not going to make your room sound bigger. That's just plain misleading. It will make power issues sound better , the amount depends, obvious to anyone with a clue, on how bad they were in the first place. I think one size fits all, rush out and buy this only because I love it reviews are disgusting.
The best buy is a dedicated line from your power box and an inexpensive effective filter.
The silly part is this was recommended to the OP. He totally ignored it.He never tried it yet tries to bash me for not trying ONE SPECIFIC power conditioner. He hasn't a clue. I have worked with at least 50-75 different power conditioners. And dozens of different power systems. In Pro audio we ALWAYS bring our own power lines. We hook up to the box. Power conditioners are generally used on items with small power supplies...ie rack gear. Pro power amps have robust supplies and don't need them.
Yet somebody clueless thinks I believe power not to be important.
He worked with one conditioner and claims it is the best. I remember my first beer too.
He claims to be modest and brags only he has knowledge and experience.
I've worked with way more equipment and people. I do agree with one of his statements now. I'm sure he can figure out which one.
he could have said, I've never tried what you said, but this works well for me.
The key is that "for me" descriptor. Religious Zealots only get joy in converting people to their beliefs.
Power filters are no more sophisticated than crossovers. They ARE NOT MAGIC.
I have a friend who has horrible power. I got him a computer cast-off Tripplite pure sine wave system for 50 bucks. That item is more sophisticated. A lot more sophisticated than the power conditioner under discussion.
Your neighbors called. They like your music.
When you are starting asking stupid questions, sorry I can't help you, maybe this will help you http://www.nightingale.com/prod_deta...ful_brain.aspx
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That guy claims a Ph.D in 'marketing' He sure has roped you in.
You must be getting desperate if you are attacking my intellect when you don't know me.
Just accept that you like your cables but can't explain why they 'work' for you.
Opinion is only as valid as its verifiable supporting evidence.
A cable thread should not be a problem at all.
The problem is the negative reactions from people who never tried, but think that the cable story is bullshit.
Before I started this tread, I didn't know to do that, because I knew how some people will react on a cable tread.
So I started this tread in a way from 'I'm the stupid one, and asking some dull questions' with in my mind to find some people with experiences.
But that wasn't the case.
I don't care if there are people with an other opinon, they only listen to their own system, and when they are satisfied, that's OK, of course I have no problem with that.
So than and when, I come here on the forum to share idea's, or find new ideas, only for one reason; I always want to make my Altec Lansing system better.
Money should not be an issue on this forum, when people think, oh that's much to expansive, it is easy to decide not to do it.
When I want to talk about money, I better can go to some kind of investors site.
Number one for me is the sound of my system!
About 45 years ago I got my first pair of Altec 409B speakers.
I am a man who always wanted to try everything what is possible without a preconceived opinion to get the best results.
I tried out the most idiot idea's with very bad results, but also with very good results.
Not thinking Ooh, that's the biggest bullshit I ever heard so let it be....
No, just try it out, that's the only way to find out.
I remember that guy in Las Vegas, which I helped with his system.
When we started he also was very very skeptical about cables, he didn't want to spent any extra money for that.
So I bought the best cables I ever had and still use, interconnects and speakers cables and I send them to him.
I made an appointment with him; listen minimum 30 hours to the cables and send me some money, only if you like them more than your previous cables.
Result after a few weeks, he told me he always was very skeptical and that was the reason he never tried it out, and now he never wanted to lose them again.
I can tell you one thing if you believe it or not; power and cables are very important!!
Unknown makes unloved!
My slogan is: Be open for all kinds of experiences and you can let your system sing like it never did before!
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